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Agenda and Minutes -
The 2 Meeting 15/16

Date: 2016/02/15
Time: 14:00
Location: Room 1410, 14/F, DWSSB, Wanchai


1           Confirmation of minutes of the last meeting for 2014-15(Appendix 1)

2           Matters arising

2.1          Manpower shortage

2.2          Gender mainstreaming

2.3          2nd Report of Review Panel of Pilot Project on Child Fatality Review


3           For discussion

3.1          Workflow of 2016 Welfare Agenda and Priorities Setting (WAPS) Exercise (Appendix 2)

3.2          2016 Policy Address (Appendix 3)

3.3          Consultation on the proposed legislation to implement the recommendations of the law reform commission report on child custody and access


3.4           Consultation on retirement protection scheme



4           For Information

4.1          2015 Best Practice Awards in Social Welfare

4.2          Progress report (Appendix 4)


5           Any other business

6           Date of next meeting and proposed meeting schedule for 2016


Date & Time



22 March 2016

at 2:30pm


17 May 2016

at 2:30pm


19 July 2016

at 2:30pm


20 September 2016

at 2:30pm





Minutes of the 2nd meeting held on 15 February 2016 at 2:30pm in Room 1410 of the Duke of Windsor Social Service Building.



Mrs Helina Yuk (Chairperson)

Hong Kong SKH Lady MacLehose Centre


Ms Cindy Leung (Vice-chairperson)

Hong Kong Family Welfare Society


Ms Emily Kwong

Aberdeen Kai-Fong Welfare Association Social Service Centre


Mrs Queenie Wong

Evangelical Lutheran Church Social Service - Hong Kong


Mr Chan Wing Kai

The Hong Kong Council of The Church of Christ in China


Mr Cooke Cheung

St James' Settlement


Dr Ernest Chui

Life Members


Ms Susan So

Hong Kong Society for the Protection of Children/ Rep of SC (CY)


Mr Ng Ting Shan

Heung Hoi Ching Kok Lin Association

/ Rep of SC (ELD)


Mrs Angela Chiu

Hong Kong Catholic Marriage Advisory Council / Rep of SC (FC)


Ms Crystal Cheng






Ms Grace Chan (CO, Elderly)



Mr Moses Mui (CO, FC)



Mr Kuo Chun Chuen (CO, Rehab)



Ms Dora Ngan (O, CY)



Ms Franki Wong (Recorder)






Mr Raymond Lai

The Salvation Army


Ms Lam Yee Mui

The Boys' & Girls' Clubs Association of Hong Kong


Mr Lai Wing Hoi

Caritas – Hong Kong


Mrs Winnie Wong

The Hong Kong Society for the Deaf
/ Rep of SC (Rehab)


Dr Lam Ching Choi

Haven of Hope Christian Service/ Co-opted Member


Ms Karen Yiu (CO, CY)



1          Confirmation of minutes of the last meeting

Typos were found in item#6.3 and #7.1. Minutes would be revised accordingly.


2          Matters arising

2.1         Manpower shortage

Ms Crystal Cheng reported that the 3rd batch of Master Programme in Occupational Therapy and Physiotherapy (MOT and MPT programmes) would be most likely commenced in September 2016, with the quota of 24 OTs and 48 PTs. The graduates would be required to undertake working in the NGOs for 3 consecutive years. Although the tuition fee was quite high, SWD was still thinking to support for the 4th batch since the programme was tailor-made for welfare sector and it provided a stable manpower supply in certain years. The Council would invite SWD and participated NGOs for a review meeting.

With the aim of encouraging more OT and PT graduates joining the welfare sector, presentation was conducted in the career talk organized by Department of Rehabilitation Sciences of Poly U for the final year students of OT and PT to introduce the work in welfare sector.  The Council would explore the opportunities of recruiting OT and PT aboard with oversea universities as well.

Ms Cheng also reported that the Hong Kong Physiotherapy Association was exploring the possibility in organizing a clinical mentorship programme for inexperienced PTs working in NGOs, with the aim of strengthening the support and supervision. The mentorship fee would be $1,800 for a 3-hour session. Members reflected the price was acceptable, but preferred having a stable mentor to follow the mentees. Concerns would be channeled to the Association and further project details would be discussed with the Association.

At the same time, the Council was exploring the cooperation with training institutes to formulate tailor-made programme for the semi-professional and multi-skilled staff to share some of the work of OT and PT. Besides OT, PT and care workers, members also addressed the need of childcare and special childcare workers.


2.2         Gender mainstreaming

No update on the captioned issue.


2.3         2nd Report of Review Panel of Pilot Project on Child Fatality Review

A round table on captioned issue was held with key stakeholders including pediatricians, children’s rights advocates, NGOs, educators and LegCo member to deliberate on the recent tragic incidents involving deaths of children and 2nd report issued by the Child Fatality Review Panel. Ms Dora Ngan recaptured the major recommendations including advocating for a serious case review mechanism, more transparency on data collection from concerned government departments, enhancing cross-sector collaboration in child abuse handling, addressing practical issues regarding parental consent, as well as reviewing and enhancing the overall system for safeguarding children. Members commented that the recommendations listed in the report were too general and the Child Fatality Review Panel had no authority to monitor the enhancement progress of those government departments.  Members expected that the Child Fatality Review Panel should put the focus on the preventable cases and the trend of the causes of the incidents. Besides, the recommendations should be more concrete for the execution. Members suggested inviting the chairperson of the Review Panel for a meeting and exchange their expectations on the Review Panel.


2.4         Nomination of co-opted member for 2014-16

Ms Crystal Cheng reported that Mr Fung Pak Yan turned down the invitation and Mr Cheung Hing Wah had not involved in the formal meeting for years, while Mrs Anna Mak did not accept the invitation but was eager to attend the meeting for more observation first. After the discussion, members agreed to suspend the invitation of the co-opted member until a suitable nominee was found.


3          For discussion

3.1         Workflow of 2016 Welfare Agenda and Priorities Setting (WAPS) Exercise

Coming WAPS annual meeting was scheduled in the morning on 10 June 2016. SWD was noted that they need to provide their progress report of last year’ WAPS proposed items. Each Specialized Committee could propose 3 agenda items. Members could advise any statistics items needed from SWD by 25 February 2016 for formulating 2016 WAPS proposal.

For the rundown of the annual meeting, the speech of Secretary of Labour and Welfare would be followed by a Q&A session. Besides raising the questions related to retirement protection scheme, members preferred having some more questions related to services, for example manpower shortage. And there would be no report back session after the group discussion. Ms Cheng understood members’ concerns on cancelling that part but negative feedbacks on having report back session were received before, and wished to have a new try this year. To utilize the time, members suggested inviting DSW to have a chitchat session with the moderators of those 5 discussion groups and share her preliminary views on 3 - 4 selected proposed welfare agenda. Those suggestions would be further deliberated with SWD in the pre-meeting on 19 February 2016.



3.2         2016 Policy Address

The policy address was released in January 2016. Press release of the council was shared for members’ perusal. There were just a few items related to welfare sector in this year’s Policy Address. The council would collaborate with the office of legislative councillor to submit budget questions. Any suggested questions were welcomed from members by the deadline of 25 February 2016.


3.3         Consultation on the proposed legislation to implement the recommendations of the law reform commission report on child custody and access

Mr Moses Mui briefed members about the background of discussion on the joint custody throughout the years. Mr Mui highlighted that there were some arguments for and against enacting the law of joint custody. Legal sector showed supported, but the abused women were against the legislation since they would be required to meet with the abusers again under requirement of joint custody. The welfare sector agreed with the concept of “Sharing parental responsibility”, but there was a lack of supportive measures. A sector forum was held on 25 January 2016 to encourage more discussion. Members agreed that specialized support service must be need for the legislation. However, SWD believed that IFSC would be capable to deal with those cases. Concerned Specialized Committees, Task Group and Networks would keep on the follow up on the discussion with stakeholders.


3.4          Consultation on retirement protection scheme

Mr Peace Wong briefed members on the background of retirement protection scheme and highlighted core differences between the pension plans suggested by the scholars and government. To facilitate the discussion among the sector and empower the users to voice out, the Council had prepared a series of tools, including an information set(退休保障懶人包), Q&A, PowerPoint (「退休保障你識揀」教材套), users’ opinion card(服務使用者「發聲卡」), outreach training by expert team(到戶講解退保諮詢), etc. An alliance named 全民撐退保社福聯盟was formed with some NGOs. The 1st community programme was conducted. He would coordinate and compile a list of events related to retirement protection scheme in a calendar. He was also planning to film some Q&A video clips. Members suggested the videos should be touching the citizens’ empathy.


4          For Information

4.1         2015 Best Practice Awards in Social Welfare

Cooperated with our PRA Research team, an evidence-based practice conference cum best practice sharing would be held on 21 March. Members and their colleagues were invited to attend the conference. Promotion material was distributed to members via email on 3 February 2016.


4.2         Progress report

     The progress of each team was illustrated in the report. 


5          Any other business



6          Date of next meeting and proposed meeting schedule for 2016

Since Ms Crystal Cheng had an unexpected event on 22 March, the 3rd meeting would be held either on 23 or 24 March 2016 at 2:30pm. There was no change for meeting dates of the 4th – 6th meetings:


Date & Time



17 May 2016

at 2:30pm


19 July 2016

at 2:30pm


20 September 2016

at 2:30pm


[Post-meeting note: The 3rd meeting would be rescheduled to 24 March 2016 at 2:30pm]